Apropos of (Merriam-Webster says it’s officially English not French) overhead conversation at T.G.I.Friday’s, I don’t think that one can morally seek either fame or being a famous X as a goal in itself. The young woman in T.G.I.Friday’s wanted to be a “famous singer”. One could seek fame so as to be able to do moral goal Y: I want to be a famous singer so I can spread true religion/alleviate hunger/support my family, but not simply for it’s own sake.

(does that help Steve?)

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